I don't know the first one, I'm guessing it would've been test prop 50-75mg ed or 100-150mg eod. But he started long before he publicly claimed to have started, he originally said he started in 2007 and then later said on forums etc. that he started in 2008, probably to save himself from the 'he's only big cos of roids' comments He told me he had taken deca in his early days, but when he moved onto tren he was hooked. From what he's said, after that he basically ran test prop and tren ace, I think it got to the point where he wasn't even cycling and he was just blasting and cruising. because one week he'd tell me he was finished the cycle that week or whenever, then a week later he'd say he just finished PCT and was starting another one. Before he went to Thailand he had just finished a cycle, he said this openly as a facebook comment, then he went to Thailand and started another one, so not sure it counts as cycling anymore. Him and his brother both had facebook posts talking about tren nightmares and prop cork etc. they were really open about it all.